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Here’s
what first comes to mind when I think about Robin
Williams. Not his crazy antics. Not Mork and Mindy.
Not him screaming “Good Morning, Vietnam!”
or Mrs. Doubtfire, Popeye or Dead Poets Society. Not
even him playing with that pink pashmina scarf on
Inside the Actor’s Studio. When I think of Robin
Williams, I remember the first time I interviewed
him for Playboy.
It was 1991—18 years ago. He was borrowing
director Barry Levinson’s house in Brentwood
and after we spent an amusing few hours talking he
walked me to my car in the driveway. I got in, turned
the key, and nothing happened. I tried again, and
this time the engine coughed and sputtered but didn’t
catch. I looked at Robin, shrugged, and said I’d
probably have to make a call to get it jump started.
“That’ll take you half a day,” Robin
said. “Let’s see if I can give you a push
down the driveway.”
“You want to push me?” I said. My car,
a 1975 Fiat Spider convertible, wasn’t very
big, but I wasn’t expecting one of America’s
most treasured talents to make such a physical offer.
“Sure. I’ll push, you turn the key,
we’ll get you going.”
And that’s what I think of when I think of
Robin Williams. Him in my rearview mirror pushing
my green Fiat from behind as I rolled down Barry Levinson’s
driveway until the engine caught and I waved my hand
in the air as I drove away.
I didn’t see him again until 11 years later
when he was promoting One-Hour Photo and his 90 minute
HBO special. That time it was for Rolling Stone, and
we concentrated on his more serious side. But you
couldn’t talk to Robin Williams and not ask
him off-beat questions, just to get his take on things.
Nobody has a sharper, quicker mind. Here’s a
sample of our outtakes—what’s never appeared
before, and what most public figures wish they could
borrow as answers to questions they’re rarely
asked.
What rock star has impressed
you?
- I met Dylan once; he tried to pick my brain. He
asked me these random questions….
Whose brain would you like
to pick?
- For a couple of hours I would love to talk with
Stephen Hawking.
Whose brain would you like
to have had?
- Einstein’s.
You once told me that the three
most cherished mementoes you owned were Einstein’s
autograph, an English naval cutlass your father gave
you, and a carved netsuke. Do you still have them?
- Einstein’s autograph I had to give back to
Van Dyke Parks—he did the musical arrangements
for Popeye. The cutlass I still have. And the netsuke.
Have you added other mementoes
since then?
- My brother gave me a beautiful binocular microscope.
And the camera that my step-grandfather used in WW
I that came with pictures of him near the front line.
As prized possessions, those are cool.
If you could be successful
in another profession, which would you choose?
- Quantum mechanics.
Now that you’re closing
in on 60, has your body changed?
- Just hairier. I met Koko the gorilla and she hit
on me, that was scary. She tried to take me in the
back room and the trainer went, ‘Koko no.’
True. She saw me and went, ‘Whoa…who’s
the little hairy man.’ When she signs, it gets
very intimate. She starts signing very small signs.
She pinched my nipples and that was it.
What writer would you have
liked to write your biography?
- Gorky.
What film would you like to
have directed?
- Ran. Or Dr. Strangelove, which is my favorite movie
of all time.
What book would you like to
turn into a film?
- The Foundation, Isaac Asimov.
What film would you like to
watch over and over again?
- Les Enfants du Paradise.
If you could have produced
any TV show?
- Something on the Discovery channel, I’m addicted.
I remember watching the crocodile hunter sexing a
crocodile by putting his finger in the cloaca. That
alone was worth the price of admission.
Change one thing about your
first sexual experience?
- The length.
Freud said mental health was
basically sexual health, think he was right?
- I think so. This was a man who did enough blow to
kill a small horse.
Repeat one alcohol or drug
experience you’ve had?
- Ecstasy with Marsha was quite lovely, I’d
do that again.
If you could be the lover of
any person other than your wife…?
- Susan Sarandon.
Retract one lie you’ve
told?
- ‘No, I’m not married.’
If you could steal one thing
other than money without getting caught?
- The Magna Carta.
If you could commit one crime
without being caught…?
- The destruction of all the nuclear secrets.
What can make you cry?
- Just the insane violence all over the world; that
makes me cry. And it’s unrelenting. I was performing
in a club in New York and afterward there was a guy
sitting down with an Iranian, a Palestinian and an
Israeli, and they all acknowledged that they want
peace but they don’t know how to get to it.
How do you create a Palestinian homeland when there’s
a large amount of Palestinians who want to obliterate
Israel? How do you stop this insane cycle that just
keeps going on and on?
How do you deal with this as
a comedian?
- You try and find a way to address it. Some people
are better at it than I am. I haven’t hit that
one yet. I’m trying to find interesting things
to talk about with it.
Who would you like to see run
for president, so you could riff on them?
- Stephen Hawking. And Colin Powell with Gore Vidal
as his running mate. That would be wild.
What’s your take on the
former president, President Bush?
- He was the short-attention span president. All the
stuff just slid past. ‘Enron? Aw, that didn’t
happen, did it?’ He walked away from that one.
What frightened me was Bush almost died from choking
on a pretzel. At that point the Secret Service was
going, ‘Game’s over, man.’ And his
own dogs didn’t give a sh*!. That’s when
I was really scared. They were licking him for the
salt.
If you could only save one
thing from your house…
- The Miro painting.
Greatest work of art?
- Picasso’s Guernica.
If you could be any person
in history?
- Da Vinci’s agent. ‘Leonardo what are
you doing? You’ve got a lot of good stuff here.’
If you could invent anything?
- What hasn’t been invented yet? Cold fusion.
That would be the big one.
Be any sports figure?
- Pele. He’s great, and very, very funny.
Play one instrument?
- Piano, in a rat’s second.
Composed any music?
- Beethoven’s Fifth.
What current musical group
would you like to join?
- Radiohead.
What three musicians or groups
would you like to see on the same bill?
- Sting, the Stones, and Dylan.
If you could have written one
song…
- “Let it Be.”
Eliminate one odor?
- Farts.
What color describes you best?
- Aquamarine.
What object best represents
your personality?
- A bicycle. It’s always on the move.
You have a passion for biking:
how many bikes do you own?
- Around 55.
These bikes are not cheap,
are they?
- Some of them are; most of them aren’t. I like
the way you say that: ‘These bikes are not cheap!’
I saw a Porsche model that
was like eight grand.
- That’s to pay for the Porsche sticker on it.
There’s also a Ferrari road bike—they
hang an extra $2,000 for the sticker. I’ve got
one of those, which I don’t ride, but it looks
great.
So what do your expensive bikes
cost?
- You can get them for six or $7,000. They’re
cheaper than Maseratis and easier to store. They’re
all hanging in the garage. I love riding them. A lot
of them are hand-made sculptures really. Most of them
are made by craftsmen.
You went to the Tour de France
to cheer on your buddy Lance Armstrong when he was
competing. How did you and he become friends?
- I went on a ride with him some years ago and then
started to hang with him. I went to see him when he
won the second Tour de France. I just love watching
him.
When you ride with Armstrong,
can you keep up?
- Oh yeah, baby. I keep up with The Man.
How often would you say you
are happy?
- A lot. The majority of the time.
What gives you pleasure?
- Hanging out with the kids, seeing the amazing things
that they say. And also looking around and realizing
that God, I know a lot of amazing people. Like Al
Pacino. Being up in Alaska and these weird ass places
with him. And being back on the road again.
I remember seeing Pacino’s eyes light up when
he said this line, which they didn’t use in
the film [Insomnia]. He said, ‘What were you
doing with her?’ And I said, ‘I was a
mentor.’ And he said, ‘Yeah, you meant
ta f*!k her.’ It got a huge laugh. And I thought,
‘Ah, you’ve been bitten, haven’t
you Al?’ That’s a great thing. Just meeting
people like Al. Not because he’s famous, but
he’s an extraordinary guy.
What period of history most
fascinates you?
- The Renaissance. And the 20th century. A double
bill. It’s amazing to think that man landed
on the moon in 1969 and that’s it, stop. The
push was to get there. But wait a minute.
Writer Paul Theroux observed
that if you were not able to move people to laughter,
you would be very nearly defenseless. Agree?
- Very much. Most animals have a defense mechanism.
That’s mine. That’s my offense and defense.
Theroux sees the roots of your
eagerness to please as being tangled in your childhood
dislocations and obscure and unmemorable misery. Any
truth to that?
- I think so. Moving around you learn to adapt. You
find a mechanism that allows you to adapt to the isolation,
and then try to overcome that as quickly as possible.
If you could take revenge on
anyone…?
- I wouldn’t. The best revenge is not to take
revenge.
Dumbest purchase?
- Bell bottom pants suit. I gave it to a guy outside
my apartment in Hollywood who had been attacked. He
had no clothing. He had to deal with it.
Inhabit the body of someone
you know personally while keeping your own mind?
- Gary Shandling.
What magazine would you like
to edit?
- Scientific American or New Scientist.
Perform in a circus?
- I’d be the last clown out of that little car.
Worst work experience?
- I was on a road crew that cleared up poison oak.
I got it all over me. It was a summer job, I was 16.
Have you ever experienced absolute
terror?
- Once, when I was about to do The Birdcage. It was
on a plane coming into Miami, dropping 500 feet in
the last 1,000 feet. You get really quiet. As you
drop you see the ground. And it’s very intimate,
at that moment you feel very connected to everyone
on that plane.
Change one thing about your
childhood?
- Having a brother, not a half brother.
Saddest thing that happened
to you?
- A double bill: the death of my father and the death
of my mother.
Are you superstitious?
- Yeah, I got that from my mom. Not ladders or cats,
but carrying around little objects.
Do you believe in magic?
- I’ve seen people pull flowers out of their
ass, of course that’s magic. My favorites are
Penn and Teller—it’s punk magic. They
will deconstruct the trick, but do a better trick.
It’s layered. They f*!k with you while they’re
doing the trick. Magic is just applied technology.
People think Moses opened the waters—no, he
knew about low tide.
What fictional character would
you like to have been?
- Bilbo Baggins, from Lord of the Rings.
What would you like to be known
for?
- The benevolent fool.
Worst fear?
- Losing your mind, your memory, your ability to think.
Sell your soul for one thing?
- I can’t.
What about to save the life
of a child?
- Then I probably would. Damn it man, work for the
devil.
If you could have witnessed
one event in history?
- The birth of Christ. Just to know what is myrrh.
If God exists, can She be trusted?
- Or is God the devil when he’s drunk? Or is
the devil just God when he’s drunk?
If you could ask God one question?
- What are you doing?
How might God change the priesthood?
- Oh, God, there’s so much to go with. The Divine
Witness Protection Program. The automated confessional
now at the Vatican. Shock collars for different problems.
Did you touch a child? Press column three. If your
hand goes anywhere near a pubescent boy, hit that
shock collar button.
What would you say in a commencement
address to graduating students?
- Stock up. What did Kurt Vonnegut say? Wear sun block.
Get canned goods, ladies and gentleman. Be prepared.
A small survival rifle. And knowledge. Learn as much
as you can about skinning, drying, and desiccating
beef. When it hits the fan, and it may not, it may
just hit the air conditioner, as we realize, as Ronald
Reagan once said, that global warming’s a myth,
but he was in the early phases of Alzheimer’s….but
now we know. You’re walking into, as the Chinese
say, interesting times. They’re mapping the
human genome, ‘You want a boy with gills, you
got him’—‘My son Joe, he’s
on the swim team. How did he win? He stayed underwater
for four hours.’ The potential is huge.
Single most valuable thing
you’ve learned?
- The value of silence.
The five most important things
in life?
- Love. Security. Laughter. Home. And a nice bowel
movement.
Choose the way you’ll
die.
- Shot by a jealous husband at the age of 90.
Pick your pallbearers.
- The Supreme Court.
If you could be reincarnated
as someone you know?
- Oliver Sacks.
Reincarnated as an animal?
- A wolf or a porpoise.
The most difficult question
you could be asked?
- If you were in prison, would you be the bitch?
This interview was originally
published in May's issue 2009 of Autograph (Interview
itself was done in 2002). Written by Lawrence Grobel.
Images courtesy of Starbrite Autographs
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