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Having
done the site for so many years now, and with no end
in sight yet, it’s been quite an adventure
and an extraordinary journey. During that journey
several mile stones were reached and another one was
reached this last May in Las Vegas.
It's May 25, 2008, just a few hours before the show
at the MGM Grand Garden Arena, but it's also time
to sit down with Robin Williams. After having met
him several times, this is actually the first time
we sat down to do a lengthy interview. And even though
we were in a quiet and peaceful environment, I couldn’t
help being extremely nervous about it all. But in
the end we did have a good conversation which is now
available for everyone to read.
The following is an edited, but uncensored transcription
of the interview.
I hope everyone will enjoy reading it and I hereby
want to thank Robin for his time and for being so
helpful and sweet about it.
About Vegas and tonight's
show
RW:
It’s a combination of all those live shows I've
been doing basically preparing for tonight at the
MGM Grand. I've done Vegas 4 or 5 times on Memorial
Day weekends. It's pretty crazy because like yesterday
with the Ultimate Fighting Championships, they get
a lot of people in Vegas this weekend. A weird, weird
mix with Ultimate Fighting and then people coming
here for Cher. And the weather is nice now so it isn't
so hot it’s devastating. But Vegas itself is
just so surreal.
L: Why do you perform in Vegas
and not somewhere else?
RW: I've done Atlantic City. I mean, first of all
the pay is huge, that's kinda why you do it. But it's
also the idea of a one time, one night show. That
you can just come in and fill it. I haven't done that
many big places; I mean as big as this. I get to stay
here for 2 days. That doesn't suck. And the people
in the audience are great. I think because it isn't
a standard Vegas show, they're kinda like: "wow,
what's this?" And I've done it, and if I had
to play for more than one day, I think it'd be rough
because the old school Casinos here used to be very
kinda PG. But with me they know it doesn't have to
be like that. The Old school acts, you come in, do
an hour and a half or an hour and it was to the minute,
because they want people in and out to gamble again.
But here I can do whatever I want, because it's gonna
be kick ass and have fun. And the people come; the
idea is they'll come have a good time at the show
and then they go gamble. And even they want me to
gamble here. A lot of people come here because of
stories about performers who've literally become like
indentured servants to the casinos.
L: This time you did 16 working
on Material shows to build up...
RW: Yeah, to build up the rhythm again. To get back
in and to find enough stuff for me to make it interesting.
I mean sometimes you notice with a lot of bands like
the Police or Air Supply they can play their greatest
hits. But for a comic that doesn't work very well.
I may do that bit about golf, or something like that,
I may even do that tonight. But here I want to have
enough stuff and also to make it unique, to make it
a show that is something they haven't seen.
For me when I played here last year it was pretty
wild. You'll see tonight [laughs] this is like Silicon
Valley literally, there're so many fake tits, that
it's like-- One woman came in and I was almost like,
was like a poster child. Those are incredible. They're
so---
L: Can you see them in the
audience when you're on stage?
RW: Oh, totally. You can look down and sometimes you
can see them coming and going and drinking. And it's
pretty wild, because the high rollers are the people
who pay for the front row seats. And a lot of casino's
there's a very special section for them and it's amazing.
And yesterday with the Ultimate Fighting Championships
I just saw, it was insane - heavily pierced....it
was like steroids meets silicon. These puffed up guys
and girls with tits that you'd go: "'my god".
And they're in the audience and you can see them,
the tattoos and all that stuff. It's pretty wild.
L: So, after Vegas what do
you have coming up?
RW: There’s some
reshoots for 'Old Dogs',
which is the movie with Travolta. Which is good, it
was fun. Working with him was a blast. He's such a
sweet man, he's a good guy.
There's a movie called 'the
Prince of Providence' which is a small movie written
by David Mamet about a guy, Buddy Cianci, who was
mayor of the Providence of Rhode Island and was pretty
corrupt even to the point where he was running for
office from jail. Then there's another one we're doing...wow,
there's this movie called "The
Shrink" with Kevin Spacey, where I play like
one of his patients. He's a psychiatrist in Hollywood
L: So you have quite some
stuff coming up.
RW: Yeah, and there's this
small movie with Bob Goldthwait, 'World’s
Greatest Dad', which is a real small independent
movie. But a really strange piece, wonderful piece.
Almost like...I can't compare it to anything, It's
more like a million little pieces about a guy who
kinda fabricates this story and gets caught. And Bob
is a good friend and he's a comic, a good guy.
L: Do you have any plans to
go on tour again?
RW: I hope so, yeah. I mean with this, I'll probably
be gone till after September. Go out and do theaters
kinda like, slightly bigger than Bimbo's. I like about
1000 or 2000 seats, that's perfect. It doesn't make
the promoter happy because they don't make as much
money, but for me it's wonderful. Theaters are different,
they're really fun. And then sometimes you play once
in a while at a University, which is crazy, I love
that. And for me, that's when I feel the best, other
than riding a bike. They fit pretty nicely for me,
because when I bike I can really...well, you know
the thing. Did you make it to the top of Mt. Tamalpais?
L: Yes, I did.
RW: You did it! Well done. Isn't that beautiful?
When I ran cross country in high school, we'd start
down in Mill Valley and run. And you get to the top
it'd be insane, cause when you look out the fog would
be sitting down on the pacific ocean. It's the most
beautiful thing in the world.
When I was riding in Mill Valley, I didn't think about
the heat [RWF Note: there was a heat wave in San Francisco
just a few days earlier] I never knew it was that
hot, then when the air moves it gets hotter. A truck
came by I was hit by a blast furnace. I had to stop.
There's no reason unless you're in the Tour the France
to hurt yourself like that. It was too painful.
One time, when you come back to America we'll go for
a bike ride, that'd be fun. I'd love that. My favorite
ride is to past one place called Nicasio and you ride
out and you go to Point Reyes. And the other one is
where you can go up to this dam, the Alpine Dam. You're
ok climbing, because you obviously get to the top
and then you get to the 4 corners that will eventually
connect you to Mt Tamalpais. But for me, those are
the kinda places I go, because they're so quiet. I
need that.
L: Let's talk about the site
for a bit. I know you don't visit it very often, but
--
RW: I do, I'm really happy you do it. I haven't visited
it that often, but I visited it recently and I was
happy. Thank you.
L: How and when did you find
out about it?
RW: I think my assistant found it for me. And it was
really great that you put the stuff out there with
the information. The dangerous thing to do is sometimes
you go online and do a search and go: "Oh my
God". It can be the most frightening thing in
the world. To know that your web site exists, I'm
like: "thank you!" And it's kind and gives
information and you going to the shows, it's sweet,
thank you. Without it I'd be like: "Oh no what
do I do?!" Because some of the other web sites
are so scary now, and plus for me the web; I'll go
on it, looking for information. But I don't look,
I don't even track myself on the web. In any form.
I don't go out to see my movies I made. I've seen
them, it's when I see them at a premiere and I can't
watch them again. I love performing and love doing
them but, oh no. I know other people who can look
at it, but I can't be objective. Literally physically
I'm going, "dude no, no". I find myself
looking at things that you know, that are so kinda
specific that makes you crazy. Just like looking at
photographs; that's why you can do only so many photo
kills. But as you go around, it's like weird. Walking
around here, last night through the Casino. The number
of pictures now that are taken every day, it's insane.
I mean in the old days only a few people who had a
camera were the paparazzi. Now everybody is a paparazzi.
Everybody has a camera. Even when I was signing. I
was signing someone's picture and I spilled some coffee
and I looked up and there was this guy with a video
camera. Oh great, thank you.
L: You talk a lot about technology
in your shows, is that something you worry about?
RW: I worry, because...Example: when I say: please
turn off your cameras and stuff. And you can see someone
sitting right there, and you go: "idiot, it has
a red light". Because that's how the camera recognizes
the distance. But they also put in a feature so people
do know they're being filmed. Like, the Japanese put
that in cell phones, because apparently Japanese men
were taking pictures of Japanese school girls underwear
in the subway! So they made it make a noise. So the
girls would know. The technology is there and you
know it's everywhere and it's a question of at what
point do you say: "hey no". And most of
the time people are sweet, but it's also a weird thing.
You can't slap a camera out of someone's hands, because
they're everywhere. But most of the time, you just
have to go 'ok', unless it's in my house and you climb
the wall, I can't do anything about it. And even then
sometimes people will hack in and find your files,
or when you lose your phone. They have access to your
most private stuff. It's that weird line of privacy
and the people's right to know everything, and I don't
think they do. That's why it's good we talk, but there
are other things like, my life now it's kinda quiet,
which is great.
L: Yeah, I'm surprised that
the press is...
RW: Living in San Francisco, it's a different city.
It's so sweet in terms of how they don't give a shit,
in a weird way. They are not about that.
L: And how was it in Minneapolis,
because it seemed the people went crazy over there.
RW: Oh, they were sweet! But Minneapolis is a weird
wonderful city. They literally [Minneapolis accent]
that voice, that accent is real. I didn't think so.
I thought it was bullshit. Oh no, it's not, hi! They're
sweet, they made Canadians look rough. And they're
very much like: [Minneapolis accent] Oh, no, hi! Gosh,
Gosh to see you. And the city itself, because it's
so cold in the winters, connected by these skyways
looks like a giant hamster habitat. And you go literally
down the streets: "where is everybody?"
You go up two floors and walk these habitats and it's
full of people. And I just walked out and you can
go from building to building without going outside,
which is like surreal. I just walked around and most
people were like: "Oh, hi, how are you?"
99% of the people are so sweet. The only time I run
into people who violate that boundary are drunks.
And having been one I get it, but I don't need to
tolerate it. Like I was walking...he wasn't even drunk.
There was a guy who all of a sudden started grabbing
me to make a picture with his cell phone and I said:
"let go". He kept grabbing me and I went:
"no, no, I know your English isn't great, but
don't grab me". I'll take a picture with you.
Treat me like a person and not like a prop. And most
people do that. Most people ask: "May I take
your photo?" Please. Once in a while you get
people who ask: "may I take your photo"
and you say: "no, not right now", and they
still take their picture. Then why did you ask?
L: And there's nothing you
can do about it.
RW: No, I mean the only thing you can, is when they're
in your house or if they violate the idea of-- like
one time there was a news crew showing pictures of
the house and I was going: No, you're giving people
information about, I mean where I live is ok, but
showing them like windows and security cameras they
were pointing out. You're giving people an idea to
take out those things and at that point you have to
go: "no, that's a violation of privacy and potentially
safety". And my kids are so fucking good about
it. Cody was great. It was an amazing thing. We were
in Paris and we were being pursued by the paparazzi.
And I stopped to get out and use an ATM. He [Cody]
said, let me out here. He got out and kinda snuck
around and went behind this one paparazzi and tapped
him on the shoulder and said: "Hi, I'm Cody.
Listen, my father, he knows you do this. My sister
is ok with it, she's in the business. My mother not
so much and myself not at all." And the guy said:
"I understand" and stopped taking pictures
of Cody. But it was very sweet. The way he did it,
I think they appreciated his honesty because they
stopped taking pictures of him.
I still have that feeling that when you approach them
and you talk to people and you treat them --You know
you realize when someone comes up to ask for an autograph
it took a lot to say that. And you try 99% of the
time, unless of course when it in a place where it
creates too much of a commotion. Like sometimes in
the Casino, if you start to take a picture then they
all of a sudden, it becomes a little claustrophobic.
Then I have to make it a call and say I can do a few
of em, but not a lot right now and shake hands. And
sometimes you're gonna have to make it a call, because
you can't do everything. But most people I think are
very sweet. And it's nice how they deal with it.
L: You've received a couple
of Lifetime Achievement Awards....
RW: Those are so weird. So weird, because....
L: I mean, you're still working...
RW: Oh, very much so. When I was a boy...I mean when
I was starting out, I should say when I was a young
man, I'd see guys get them, people like Fellini. He
was there with John Huston. And there was one with
Chaplin, and he was in his 80s. And I was barely 50
getting one. It's like the old joke: OK, so I have
to die now.
When I saw Bette Davis get hers, she was like: "I'm
not done!" She was angry, tough. And she was
in her 70s or 80s, but tough and really did have a
lifetime of work. And when I went to see DeNiro's,
I think his was extraordinary. To see him and Pacino,
and they had pictures of all their work, I was like,
shit yeah, it was great. He's not dead yet, he has
more work to come, but it was like they were saying:
"look what he's done so far". It was like
Scorsese finally winning an Oscar...
L: That was about time.
RW: Oh, yeah. He's a sweet, very kinda hyper guy,
but when he won he was like: "Now, thank you".
L: Where does the passion
come from to keep working, to keep reinventing yourself?
RW: Well, you get it back from obviously like tonight.
You get it back from the live interaction and the
idea that there's so much to talk about. With the
acting stuff it's the chance to work on another character,
with new directors and people. It's like getting a
chance to play with a different team. As an athlete
I don't know if they'd like to be traded, but the
idea you do a movie and it's just a group of people
thrown together and you get to work with different
people. And you always come away learning stuff. I
always do. Whether it's the director, whether it's
the actors or sometimes even the cinematographers
and people teaching me about the nature of the light
and of all these things I go: "Wow, I learn."
Do I wanna direct? Not at all. I know why people do,
why actors do and can be very good at it. But it's
not anything that appeals to me. Part laziness I think,
but also part that I love doing this part. Acting,
and for me it kinda frees me to just explore and --
I think I have to be honest, it's usually a bit of
laziness, because I've seen my friends who are actor/directors
and the amount of work is insane. Like when Billy
[Crystal] acts and directs, he has to go in at like
4:00 in the morning, to do make up and then stay there
till 8 at night. That's a long day. A crazy day.
L: Have you ever considered
doing shows or doing stand up in Europe?
RW: I have played England. England is wild. In London
I kicked ass. Then I played one night at a club outside
of London, and died.
It was about 18 years ago, because I was getting ready
for the Prince's Trust and it was before Zelda was
born. It was 19 years ago, maybe even 20. And it was
so incredibly...so gruelling, but at the same time--
Every comic has a great story of bombing. Opening
for a rock and roll band, like Bobcat [Goldthwait]
opened up for Nirvana. He was at one show where he
was literally under a barrage of bottles and he was
ducking and still doing the act. He looked over and
saw Kurt Cobain laughing his ass off behind the speaker.
This was my story of dying in an English Comedy -
it wasn't even a comedy, it was a working man comedy
club. And just dying. Just eating shit. To the point
where all you could hear was [glass to glass] And
that was just "oh, my god."
I think Europe would be good, like Eddie Izzard did
an amazing thing. He started off, he played England
obviously, but then went to France. And he started
doing shows 90% English and 10% French. By the end
of his run, a month, he flipped it, he was doing 90%
French and 10% English.
L: Would you be able to do
that in French?
RW: I've done it occasionally, like on a French talk
show, but the moment they pick up the pace I'm like:
"what?". It's the same thing when you go
to Paris and be speaking French they'd literally go
like: "speak English, don't try". It's only
in Paris. In Florence, it's like: "Ah, ..ma valise
!...tu essayer m'aider ? Bravo, bravo Robin. But the
moment you're in Paris they go: nice try, but I'll
talk English with you. To play in another country
would be fun. I mean I love playing London and when
I've done English clubs, I've always had a great time.
Australia is fun. I'd like to play in Australia, They
as an audience really go nuts.
L: You did some unannounced
shows there...
RW: Yeah, at a club, it was a very [laughs] it was
so surreal. It was a club near a race track. I forgot
the name of it, I think it's gone now. But the acts
they were opening up were just insane. There was just
a guy, he was almost naked, I forget what he did.
But it was crazy. And they drink. Oh god. And I wasn't
drinking, but....
L: Like that person who was
removed in Seattle?
RW: Yeah, turned out she was the liquor representative
for the club. They came in and got her, I went: "who
was that?" She actually works here [laughs].
She got so drunk, so quickly. Literally I couldn't
understand, it's like that thing I talk about on stage.
For me doing those places is pretty fun. Same thing
as with Bimbo's, it's nice to try to work on all those
things.
L: Ok, this is something I’d
really wanted to ask before the end of the interview.
What would your slogan be for the site?
RW: Enjoy! Check it out. Log on, enjoy. Read on. Proost.
Or, leave ideas. Things to try. Try that, cause I
was thinking of doing this at Bimbo's or Throckmorton
to say what characters you'd like to see or- because
sometimes I'll ask people in the audience and they
get "I don't know". An idea for a character
you'd like or a concept, other than Mrs. Doubtfire
2. For a comedy it's the idea of, I don't know, it's
a weird concept before it's fully fleshed out. Just
ideas.
L: Oh, Mrs Doubtfire is now
completely gone?
RW: Oh, it's gone. They couldn't pull it off, it was
just too hard to pull it off, to make it work in a
way that--, because at the end of the first one when
everyone knew who she was. They couldn't figure out
a way to bring her back without getting people a lobotomy.
It's something you can't ignore. But with the fan
site you see, check it out. Leave idea. Probably the
best part about the web is when ideas build.
It's that thing like there're people with way too
much free time, but that's the nature of the web I
guess, you get the good and the bad. You get people
logging on. But I think the hope of the web and the
fan sites and all that is sharing information. Seeing
an idea, building off an idea. When it works it's
best, like a neurological system of people sharing
information and then going "Ok, I got this idea".
For me that's kinda like: maybe a part of the web
site would be "things to try" or "ideas"
or "characters" or.....
L: You do have an official
web site, hosted by Sony...but it's like 6 years old.
RW: Oh, it's old. All those are usually promotional
sites for movies. Oh no, it's left over from the stand
up.
L: Yes. Is there ever going
to be a new web site?
RW: I don't know. I mean, I'm looking into that right
now. I think I will, because, I have enough knowledge
of the technology. I mean obviously between YouTube
and the movies that people do for YouTube there’s
so much you can fuck with. So much in terms of the
blogs and I mean, there's so many mock-u-blogs that
people have. The idea of people posting stuff that
isn't real, but yet people think it's real. Like there's
a great Obama video right now, people cutting the
speeches so it looks like a stand up act. It was hysterical.
I think I might try something, especially now when
I'm going on the web or maybe do something that might
be part live, part documentary. Cause Bobcat [Goldthwait]
and I were thinking about doing that. To do kind of
a feed where we'd go out to talk to people and go
to different parts of the world. I think it could
build into something kinda cool. That'd be fun. Yeah,
I mean that'd be the next step if you'd do that, because
I think in kind of a weird way I didn't embrace it.
Now, as I look at it, I get it and starting to go,
wait a minute, I do feel a bit like: "You young
people." But that thing I talk about online,
I mean the idea of now going: "wait a minute,
there is, wait a minute, there's a lot to do here."
I know the guys at Google and one day I was in one
of their offices and they had a huge thing with all
the non obscene Google queries and I started riffing
on those and they were just like: "dude!".
Like "17th century" and you can play off
of that and do 2 minutes on that, 2 minutes on that,
and it was interesting because all of a sudden it
was like the ultimate improv. Cause it's stimulus
from everywhere. And the requests were so surreal,
if you sat down and really think of the most bizarre
request of all, you couldn't top it. Because it's
basically human minds all over the world going: "I
wanna know this!" And it was pretty amazing.
And I was: that comes in every minute?. Oh yeah. And
the numbers....what a wild idea. But that's been interesting
the last month. Getting back online and literally
getting out and performing again. It's got me realizing:
"shit, there's so much to do, so much to talk
about, every day, literally with the elections and
the remark's recently about the Kennedy assassination
going: "psst, Ted's not Jewish".
You know and it's also that weird thing of anything
you think of will be topped by the news pretty quickly.
L: Oh, you mentioned it in
an interview recently about Jon Stewart, all he has
to do is play a clip of Bush and...
RW: He does, "it makes my job so easy".
He hasn't realized they'll say things that you'd go,
John McCain saying: "torture works".
Right on, you know, it's like the idea of this stuff
happening every day and the sense of, in the old days
it took a while to find the irony, it's ironic the
moment it happened. It's beyond that now. It's now!
But for me, I'm kinda waking up to it literally, because
I was working so hard the last 5 years. It was just
movie after movie after movie, and now take a break
and go: picking movies that I want to do, really makes
it easier. And also to sit back and say: "look
at what's going on". And it's important to talk
about, cause these are crucial times, I mean, really
pivotal. It can be, it's a turning point globally:
huge, environmentally: gigantic, politically: yes,
spiritually: big time. I mean the feel of operation
it's pretty intense. It's really exciting times, maybe
it's a Chinese curse, when we're living in exciting
times then these are it. I mean, it's going down.
L: Ok, now that we're winding
up...Do you have anything to say to the fans out there?
RW: Thank you for the support, thank you for people
who -- cause I meet a lot of them. It's really sweet.
And I thank the people from throughout the years who've
sent letters and it's good to know you're out there,
thank you. I know people say, keep trying stuff. And
I went 'thank you', that's the most important thing.
That people kinda appreciate you. And it's good to
know you're there. It's good to know that people are
out there that care. It's not like rock 'n roll fans,
it's a different type of fan.
L: Do you think the fans have
changed over the years? I think in the Mork and Mindy
days it must’ve been crazy and insane!
RW: It was insane, but it's weird because they are
still there going: "I've been a fan since..."
or they say: "my father watched you on Mork and
Mindy”. I was like: "cool". It's wild
to think of and I'd meet like kids in Iraq, who remember
me from Flubber or Hook or Good Will Hunting and don't
have a clue about Mork and Mindy.
L: Same for me, for me it
didn't start until Bicentennial Man.
RW: Yeah, it's a weird thing. People will come and
find different movies.
I think have the fans changed? Yeah, they've just
mellowed. It's not the frenzy like in the beginning.
It was like teen magazine AH! Mork & Mindy! And
then it becomes like: "hello". It's a bit
like me, it has mellowed with age. It's been nice
and to know that there have been people there all
along it's been really lovely. It made me very happy.
It's an interesting group of people. I've met so many
different people that have been fans of my work over
the years and it's cool because it's been such a wide
gamut of people. Tonight you will get an interesting
idea of that kinda nice mix. And when I perform across
the country I get to see another different mix of
people. For me it's been nice, it's been a really
good ride.
L: Like tonight we have a
small meeting coming up with about 20 people and the
ages are from like 20 to 60.
RW: Ah, fucking A! Yeah because those in their sixties
are the ones that watched Mork and Mindy 30 years
ago. The ones in their 20's are from movies and sometimes
from the new stand up. Sometimes my manager goes:
" you gotta get out to the young people and if
I do I do if I don't I'm not going to reach for it,
because then it looks like you're trying to look young
when you're not. I'm 56 and I'm happy, this is great.
L: Oh, there is this rumor,
well it's not a rumor, but is it 1951 or 1952?
RW: 51, July 21st 1951,
so I will be 57 this year. Yeah, it's wild because
for a long time they said I was born in Scotland,
but that was also me. I kidded a journalist once,
I was joking with this guy and they were like: "are
you nuts"?
This interview was originally
published on July 12, 2008 on The
Robin Williams Fansite. Written by Linda
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